This all just shows you that white people are stronger, smarter, and classier than black people.

White Pewr!

Brb, I'm gonna go beat up some guy then -stand on his head- and hope that someone with you guys' demeanors is trying me.

Eh, I'd say black people are definitely stronger on average, lol. white pewr.

Strength comes from within, Willkill. Everyone knows black people don't have souls.

They also came from the mud.

White Pewr!

So you're saying he deserves 15+ years in prison?

Do you honestly think he'd serve 15 years? I don't know if he deserves to serve 15 years since I'm not a legal specialist. Personally, I'd like to see him serve a year or two at least to perhaps teach him not to stand on peoples' heads when they're unconcious. Racism or not, that's fucked up and I can very easily see why he got attempted murder.

He has a past history of breaking laws though ...that's one of the things going against him they were talking about on CNN. If this was his first offense he might be alright, but establishing a pattern of criminal behavior will get you fucked.

I honestly went through all my years of school without seeing someone stand on an unconcious guy's head after being a pussy and beating him up with a group of people. We did have a fight at my school like this one but it wasn't inspired by racism. Guess what? The kid who was getting beat up by the group of people died.

Just because it happens all the time doesn't make it right, Thanatos. It starts out innocently enough as a normal fight until someone gets killed. They very easily could have killed this guy. It's a crime and they're being punished. They may be fucked and have hardass judges etc., but that's the risk they took. I do not feel a single bit sorry for them and I hope they enjoy their time in jail if they don't get the racism "get out of jail free card".

They won't feel so tough when they're getting it up the ass from a 50-year-old murderer.

Thanatos, from what I've heard, it isn't just a "fight." 6 guys beating the shit out of a guy until he's unconscious and then beating some more shit out of him is not a fight, it's 6 guys beating the shit out of 1 guy because he said "nigger."

I have never once said that I condone the actions of the main perpetrator. What he did was not right; I fully understand that. BUT, what he's being charged with and his sentencing isn't right.

In this particular instance, what happened does not warrant 15+ years in a federal prison. Hours after the "fight" the guy went out and hung out with his friends!!!! Obviously, he wasn't hurt that bad.

Look, I'm not backing this guy up. I'm not saying how he handled the noose situation was right, all I'm saying is that the charges he's being presented with are completely fucked up.

What noose situation?

You know that the nooses were hung in the tree like 3 months before this fight even happened. It's completely unrelated.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070922/...vxcvoZglwkeedF

Check out that article. It clears up a lot of things that people are very misinformed about in this situation.

In my opinion, people need to just shut the fuck up about race for once, and look at this blind to color. The white students shouldn't be punished more or less for their race and the black students shouldn't either. It shouldn't even be "6 black students attacked a white student" or "a white student called 6 black students niggers." It should be "a bunch of troublemakers started shit at this school and no longer belong at it."

When you bring race into this shit you just inflame everything 100 times worse than it should be.

Well it was my understanding that the reason the 6 black dudes jumped him was because of the nooses. That's what all the major news outlets were reporting, at least.

Even though, just looking at the clear facts, you cannot agree to this guy's sentencing. It's outlandish.

Thanatos, I think we CAN agree that everyone in this situation is being a bunch of asshats. Both blacks and whites.

The information about the situation is being completely abused by the black community to be used to stir up some shit and start some new-age civil rights movement. It all comes down to the fact that everyone is being dumb in this, not just the blacks or just the whites.

The whites are abusing their race to get away with things they shouldn't and to punish the blacks more than they should be able to, but the blacks are not helping themselves with violence and by having Al Sharpton representing them.

IMO, the best thing the black community could do is tell Al Sharpton to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up because he's the biggest asshat these days. Back a few years ago he wasn't that bad but now he's just an asshat.

Also, the Jury that tried the boys was ALL WHITE, and this is being repeated over and over, but if you'll refer to the article, and the facts, blacks were included in the people chosen at random for the jury, but NONE of them showed up. They're not helping themselves by doing that.

I'm just going to conclude by saying that nobody is right in this situation, and everyone is wrong. It's being portrayed as a huge injustice between whites and blacks, but in reality it's just a bunch of asshats on both sides. I hope we can agree on at least that much.

White or black, what they did was wrong and they deserve to be punished. The degree of their punishment is up for debate, but standing on someone's head when they're unconcious constitutes -at least- assault, imo. I hope they like jail.

I haven't read the entire thread, but my opinions on the issue are represented fairly well by KA and WillKill in their first few posts.

Owned, here's an update *back on topic*

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/11...ail/index.html

They we're ordered back to jail, and apparently they left out to report that these kids are REPEAT offenders, even as teenagers. Goddamnit.