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Edge 2003-10-19 04:19 PM

FF8 is okay, in my opinion. I have to agree with SoldierX on his opinions, and the whole draw magic thing was stupid to me. Other than those things, the game was alright.

Medieval Bob 2003-10-19 08:53 PM

FF4 was fucking awesome. Palom and Porom rul3.

Raziel 2003-10-19 09:15 PM

Agreed. Although Tellah owns both of them.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-19 09:20 PM

Tellah was the only good thing from FF4...

Raziel 2003-10-21 03:07 AM

I'll have you publicly executed for that, KA.

Medieval Bob 2003-10-21 12:07 PM

I always wondered why you couldn't use a soft on the twins in FF4... I was more concerned about them than Aeris.

(partially because I didn't give a shit about Aeris)

Rurouni Storm 2003-10-21 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
I always wondered why you couldn't use a soft on the twins in FF4... I was more concerned about them than Aeris.

(partially because I didn't give a shit about Aeris)

Aren't they rescued in the end anyways?

Medieval Bob 2003-10-21 07:31 PM

Aye, 'tis true.

I was just comparing it to everyone's complaint about using a Phoenix Down on Aeris.

Raziel 2003-10-22 04:02 AM

Here's my explanation for the whole "Phoenix Down" argument. When a character goes down in battle in an FF game, they don't die. They are knocked unconscious. They black out and the only thing that can instantly revive them is a Phoenix Down. In the "tutorial" segments of the FF games, they never once say that Phoenix Downs revive a character from "death." They always say that Phoenix Downs revive a character from "unconsciousness." And there is a big difference between being knocked unconscious and being put to sleep with a sleep spell.

As for the Soft question, I always assumed that Palom and Porom couldn't be healed because they turned themselves to stone in order to save everyone. It was their choice to sacrifice themselves for the good of the team, and a simple curative item would have been incapable of altering the strong wills of two human beings.

Medieval Bob 2003-10-22 08:59 AM

Only fault in that argument (the second, as I don't give a damn about Aeris) is that the only way they could have turned into stone is by casting petrify. They couldn't have simply willed themselves into stone.

If you try it on yourself in battle, I'm sure a soft will easilly fix the problem.

Raziel 2003-10-23 12:28 AM

No, you misunderstood what I said. They did cast "Stone." In fact, as I remember, they both shouted the word "Stone" before becoming petrified. The difference is that they willingly did it to themselves in order to save their friends.

When a person is petrified in battle, they are turned to stone against their will, even if it is done by an ally. Therefore, if you use a Soft in battle, they invite being de-petrified because they didn't want to be turned to stone in the first place. Palom and Porom didn't want to be changed back because they sacrificed themselves to save the lives of others. They were the only thing preventing that room from collapsing, and if they were suddenly cured, the whole room might start caving in again, endangering everyone. They didn't want that to happen, so they used their willpower to "supercharge" the spell, making it nearly impossible for anyone to cure. I hope that was a bit clearer.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-23 06:05 AM

So, in battle, if they turn themselves into stone, they wont be able to be depetrified?

I think not.

Raziel 2003-10-23 06:39 AM

Well, there wouldn't be much emotional weight to that, would there? They turned themselves to stone in order to save their friends. If they just suddenly cast Stone on themselves in battle, that would be pointless. Plus, it wouldn't technically be the characters petrifying themselves. It would be the player's fault.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-23 06:40 AM

Oh well, Tellah is way better than them anyway.

Raziel 2003-10-23 06:47 AM

Yes, yes he was. But Golbez kicked his ass into next week.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-23 06:51 AM

Golbez was just a kid with too much power and not enough girls.

Raziel 2003-10-23 06:59 AM

Golbez was the man. He was brutal. And he was probably the most badass-looking villain in the series.

uncapped 2003-10-23 07:56 AM

Kefka owns Golbez. As a matter of fact, Heidegger owns Golbez.

!King_Amazon! 2003-10-23 08:18 AM

Heidegger was just annoying, and Kefka does own Golbez.

But, Tellah owns them all.

Medieval Bob 2003-10-23 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncapped
Kefka owns Golbez. As a matter of fact, Heidegger owns Golbez.

Rofl. Kefka owns nobody. I thought he was the pussiest of any FF antagonist ever.


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