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DaFrigginDoctah 2003-07-02 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverjinx18
PROOF!!! this is where I come in ;)...but I'm not...I'm tiered fo saying the same thing...I'm tiered of saying that God leaves proof for those who want to see it,those who don't, and the stupid idiots who bitch and complain cause they have to think about...kinda like the little kids who cried cause they could never find Waldo!!!(if you just look once you can see him...it's that fucking easy...)

Getting into Heaven:thank you...something new to talk about that will get old quick...There's nothing hard to it...He makes it sooo easy that you don't have to lift one finger...you just sit down if you want to...Jesus did everything for you...you just ask Him to come into your heart so you can be saved...you understand He died for your and my sins...He died because you killed that man and if you truly feel sorry for it (and He always knows how you feel...)you will go to heaven...

Timing to get into heaven: it's like school work...it's a deadline. You must turn the paper in at that time...no if's ands or buts ppl! otherwise you are fucked right? RIGHT!!!!!!11 If you don't want to believe in Him now why then?We had to do more things then the man that said "Well hey! It's all coming together now!!!"
I can speak two langauges, and half of two more... And I cant make heads or tails out of what the fuck you just said.

Medieval Bob 2003-07-02 11:20 AM
It's all pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by What silverjinx
I'm tired of listening to the stupid dribble again and again about the current topic. I'm glad there's a new one. This, however, if history holds true, will become moldy just as the old one did, very quickly.

I'm tired of people saying that there is no proof of God. There is proof. It just has to be sought.

Ask Jesus to be your savior to get into Heaven. He died to purge you of your sins (the "you killled that man" reference).

You must take Jesus as your savior before you die. If you don't believe now, then why will you whe you die?
I don't agree with that last part, because there is a damn good reason to believe in God when you die. You meet him. However, I think it is still lame. Also, I don't quite follow the last sentence, but I'm hoping that's what threw Grav and DFD off as well... otherwise...

ENGLISH MOTHUFUCKAS! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?

Grav 2003-07-02 12:19 PM
I think silver is going to break up with you, Bob.

Medieval Bob 2003-07-02 02:24 PM
Por qué

Silverjinx18 2003-07-02 06:59 PM
...I didn't mean you wouldn't believe when you die...duh...I mean...you can't get on the ship w/o a ticket...you must have it before you get on...

undeadzombieguy 2003-07-05 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WetWired
Does He not make His presence known in the world around us? Jesus has certainly made me aware of His presence in my life. But for the simplest argument of whether there is any god, the laws of physics state that order comes out of chaos only when external energy is introduced into a system--in other words, perhaps there was a "big bang", but even so, it was God that caused it and who willed all the order that exists into being.
there WAS a big bang and it wasnt created by god but by friction between atoms, when the friction became to big the effect was like 100000000000 nuclear boms creating pieces by the intens frictions, all those pieces blew up and became stars and planets...

I think it went something like this if i remember correctly.
I saw this on a program once with scientists who discovered this
so called "string theory" which could explain the creation of things

any1 who knows more of this post it

Medieval Bob 2003-07-05 03:09 PM
"theory" It's a theory. There is no more evidence of a big bang creating all existance than of God doing it.

undeadzombieguy 2003-07-06 02:57 AM
well that theory made more sence to me when i heard it then the existence of god...

Medieval Bob 2003-07-06 11:15 AM
I'm glad it makes sense to you, but I don't really think you're the authority on the existence of God. My point is still very valid and cannot be disproven. There is just as much or more evidence that God created the planet than simply a boom.

Medieval Bob 2003-07-06 01:59 PM
"No" in reference to what?

Grav 2003-07-06 02:01 PM
FUCKING MORMONS

undeadzombieguy 2003-07-06 02:08 PM
LOL the irony, the doorbel just rang when i finished my post here and before me stood 2 jehova witnesses to try and sell me a bible and have a talk about god...

Medieval Bob 2003-07-06 06:17 PM
Jehova's Witnesses don't sell Bibles. They give them away. They give you a flier to mail in for one.

undeadzombieguy 2003-07-07 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
Jehova's Witnesses don't sell Bibles. They give them away. They give you a flier to mail in for one.
k i just assumed i had to buy 1 :x
I just said not thx not interested but they kept on asking are u sure? Asked if i maybe wanted to... before they could finish they're sentence i said no thx again and closed the door. Those ppl are -srry for saying- fucking annoying. They come by like every month and I have to keep telling them im not interested

Medieval Bob 2003-07-07 08:21 AM
Don't need to apologize to me. Im not a Jehova's Witness...

khwiii 2003-07-07 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverjinx18
PROOF!!! this is where I come in ;)...but I'm not...I'm tiered fo saying the same thing...I'm tiered of saying that God leaves proof for those who want to see it,those who don't, and the stupid idiots who bitch and complain cause they have to think about...kinda like the little kids who cried cause they could never find Waldo!!!(if you just look once you can see him...it's that fucking easy...)
Can I ask you a question? There is scientific proof of dinosaurs existing millions of years ago, why is this not addressed by the bible? Reality tells me that these things exist, the bible doesn't. You can categorize everything you see as proof of a God, if that's your mindset. If you look at it through another mindset you can see how animals and such adapt over time to their surroundings.

If there is a God, it's an unfair situation he/she has put us in, for I see more proof (i.e. the dinosaurs) that he didn't exist, then proof he does.

Medieval Bob 2003-07-07 09:45 AM
Um.. have you read anything in the past few pages? We addressed the dinosaur issue... I haven't looked for the passages, but if someone will provide an online, full-text Bible, I'll give it a shot.

ViciousMilitia 2003-07-07 01:49 PM
okay think of it this way, you have never seen god...right, well somepeople have like in the bible, well if you say I have never seen him so I don't beleive in him that makes no sense, you don't see disease, or airborn pathogens, or your brain, but it's still there.

badboy 2003-07-09 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ViciousMilitia
okay think of it this way, you have never seen god...right, well somepeople have like in the bible, well if you say I have never seen him so I don't beleive in him that makes no sense, you don't see disease, or airborn pathogens, or your brain, but it's still there.
Actually, you can just not without a really powerful microscope. But you can see your brain easy, just bash you head open and wala, there it is.

Jamesadin 2003-07-10 05:55 PM
I believe God still shows himself through the world.


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