and this thread is alive once again...lets c what all the new members have 2 say about it this time

It's not too confusing Bob, it is just that too many people are trying to be smart. And if you try too hard, you sound stupid. I still just say believe what you wanna believe, because no matter what no one will ever truly change your mind.

It's still fun to to debate and discuss

I believe in God.
I'm not the type of person who would try and get other to believe in Christ, but I'm against the people who think that, "Oh Church is for the simple minded", "Nah God doesn't exist, it just doesn't make sense" etc.

i just wanted to point something out. its sort of the reason me and my friends are athiest. When you pray your talking in your head. when you talk in your head your talking to yourself. therefore ur praying to urself meaning you are your own god. you are the only 1 that controls the future the past and present. anything created by u or where u have goten was caused by u. no outside help was given *except from friends/family mabye*

I believe in postdestination. (A term invented by me. If the term already exists, then I'll explain my version of it) I do not believe in predestination, as all humans have the ability to choose their future.

Say you had a choice of door 1 or door 2. You are not destined to choose either door. If you choose door 1 and walk through it for a big cash prize (!), then you were destined to do so. However, if you stepped through door 2, the same would apply.

If one were to look at it from outside of the confines of time, then one of those two choices would be destiny, as you will unquestionably choose one over the other. It is your choice to make, but you will only choose one. There is a reason you will make the decision, and, if placed in the same circumstances at the same time, you will ALWAYS make that same decision. This is, of course, neglecting mass dilation(jk :-P ).

my cussion is a cristan freak, every time i talk to him he is all like "do you want to see god as your jude, or your saver" "science is bullshit, god invented this" "god says that if you dont respect others belifes you will goto hell" and whats strange is that i dont beleve in nothing exsept for that i am here and i dont give a shit why. he is trying to change what i think and beleve, hes telling other that "he doesnt beleve in god, hes not a nice person" when i am thinking "yep, just here for the ride shithead".

I believe in God. I have made an investigation before coming here though. I don't just want to say what I think. I want to know why others don't believe in God. This is why

Humans are one of the most flawed creatures in existence. One of the major problems with us is bitterness. The wanting of what others have. People have died because of this foolish desire. Allmost every emothion revolves around this feeling. Hatred is created because you want what others have.
Another is ego. Not being as rich, pretty or smart as a person makes us feel a great resentment. I know people who are smarter than somebody in any way causes the less able person to force their brains to believe that the intelligent person is less then them in many ways.
What does all this have to do with belief? I'll tell you. In my theory there is two types of nonbelievers.. One is the jealous type and another is the resentful type. Here they are

Jealous
These people are jealous that there's something that they'll never know. God is something that man will probably never have proof of. These people have little faith.. They need to know if he exists or not. Not knowing makes them frustrated so they cast aside all belief.

Ego
Then there are the egotistical. These people pride themselves on knowing everything. Being good at something gives them a sense of joy and peace. There ego is shattered however when they find out that they will never know if they will go to Heaven or Hell. They fear what they do not know and thus they will their minds and souls to stop believing in such things as the afterlife or God.

I think this makes sense. I have school during the day so don't expect me to reply to any of your posts until 8 PM at latest.

mmmmmm Sounds interesting but I have to disagree. Unfortuanately many think like you. I am not very religous. I just believe. Youn need more than knowledge to exist in this world.

Did you just... disagree with yourself?

Hahaha, I spotted the same thing. Did a post get deleted or something?

That was my brother.

Sorry if I'm totally out of line but I didn't take time to read this lengthy thread.....God is just a totally illogical thing to believe in....I mean if there IS a god, why are there such things as poverty and war?? Not to mention I never read anything in The Bible about dinosaurs.....did they just skip that part of history or something?? Seriously consider that for a minute...

1. There are actually three mentions in the bible of a creature described similar to a dinosaur.

2. God is our father. He is merciful and loving. He is not our little towel boy to do whatever we want. Things are shitty today because we made them that way.

Also, I'll take a page from Bruce Almighty. God can't affect free will. (If He could, everyone would love him and be religious)

I shall sum it all up in this poem

birds chirped, the grass was so green
a beautiful sight never seen
animals walked about without a care
a sight now a days so rare
it was a utopian age, gods true plan
but then he created man

Snazzy.

Well I don't know about what Bob is talking about...I'm not saying it isn't true...I just don't know of it...anyway Dinosaurs were before ppl....Bible: in the begining God created animal...then man...then man named animal and then God created women...lame ass history books: Dinosaurs...cavemen...cavemen talk name big thing...women come...dinosaurs go away...new things come along...all hail stupid school book...

Lol that's good. Anyway, I'll ask around about where the references to dinosaur-like beasts are. I know Josh Gage mentioned it to me, but he works all the time, so I don't know when I can talk to him.

Dinosaurs? In the Bible? They must be in the New New Testiment.

Heh.....well what about an entire human race stemming from 2 people?? Wouldn't we all be just a bit inbred then?