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[01:43] !King_Amazon!: You can, but that isn't particularly useful for getting to high runes I need
[01:44] !King_Amazon!: Getting anything beyond Ist via upgrading isn't really practical
[01:45] !King_Amazon!: Ber is the 4th highest rune, so to upgrade to it would take the equivalent of 64 Ist runes which are already hard to come by
[01:47] !King_Amazon!: The relevant cube recipes can be seen here, and it should be reasonably obvious how limited it is http­://­classic­.­battle­.­net­/­diablo2exp­/­items­/­cube­.­shtml
[01:48] !King_Amazon!: tl;dr: you're more likely to find the rune you need than to find all of the runes it would take to make it, so unless you just happen to find yourself in a situation where you have the right runes by chance, it isn't really feasible or worth it to upgrade to high runes
[01:49] !King_Amazon!: And since I can't take out Hell Countess, I don't really have any reliable way to even farm mid-tier runes, so I'm much better off farming areas that can drop the high runes I need
[01:52] !King_Amazon!: Lower Kurast is particularly good (yet still incredibly unreliable) since the "super chests" there have a specific number of set drops that they can have
[01:52] !King_Amazon!: IIRC there are 65536 different possible sets of drops they can have, and some portion of those contain specific high runes
[01:52] !King_Amazon!: While the odds still aren't great, it is better than pretty much anything else
[01:53] !King_Amazon!: Still 20k+ runs to get two Ber runes, on average
[01:54] !King_Amazon!: Of course, I could get lucky and get some Sur rune drops, in which case I would certainly upgrade them to Ber if I had enough of them, as Sur runes aren't useful for any runewords I could utilize
[01:58] !King_Amazon!: Unfortunately, Lo runes (which upgrade to Sur) and Sur runes (which upgrade to Ber) have equivalent likelihood to drop from Lower Kurast chests as Ber runes, so again, upgrading really isn't feasible unless the drops just happen to work out a certain way
[02:00] !King_Amazon!: And each of those only has a single drop configuration per chest out of 65536 possibilities, which a max of 6 chests per map, so odds are I'd still be running until my eyes bleed to find these things
[02:01] !King_Amazon!: High runes are serious business
[02:01] !King_Amazon!: with a max*
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[06:28] -Spector-: 5/15
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[18:01] -Spector-: My interwebz has been activated - do you know how much this chatbox sucks on mobile?
[18:02] -Spector-: Fuck WW
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[00:07] !King_Amazon!: Bah, I've probably put close to 50 hours into my sorc now and haven't seen A SINGLE MONARCH DROP. Not a white one, not a magical one, NOTHING.
[00:11] !King_Amazon!: In ~5 hell cows, a few dozen Ancient Tunnels, and over 100 kurast/meph runs hitting every armor rack
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