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[00:00] Chruser: I agree, vB is nice, and the support community is great, perhaps partly thanks to their paid staff.
[00:00] Chruser: WW, when is the last backup from?
[00:00] Goodlookinguy: I'm looking up if you can right now.
[00:00] WetWired: Pretty recent
[00:00] WetWired: SQL-wise
[00:00] WetWired: Did you see about your hacked site?
[00:01] WetWired: mmofps is pretty trashed
[00:01] WetWired: I suspended it untill we get this sorted out
[00:01] WetWired: It looks like it's been hacked since December and they were using us as a relay or something
[00:01] Chruser: I don't use it any longer anyway, we moved the project to another server
[00:02] Grav: PEACE NIGGAS!
[00:03] Goodlookinguy: There is a demo, I am trying it out right now on vBulletin.
[00:03] Chruser: I removed the hacked files and upgraded mediawiki to a PHP5-compatible version while I was at it
[00:04] WetWired: When was this?
[00:04] Chruser: Picaroni got obliterated too, although it, in a sense, already has been for a while
[00:05] Chruser: The move? December 23-24.
[00:06] WetWired: The cleanup
[00:07] Goodlookinguy: Wow! The vBulletin Admin Control Panel is beautiful!
[00:07] Chruser: Probably mid-January.
[00:08] WetWired: I assure you it was quite compromised this evening
[00:09] Goodlookinguy: Your board is 3.5 and the newest is 3.6.8, are you not updating, or you can't until your licnense runs out? That would be nice to know before I continue possibly pursuing it.
[00:10] WetWired: I started to work on the conversion to 3.6.8 with a vBA portal, but never finished
[00:10] Chruser: I see. http­://­www­.­christianhagg­.­com didn't go through.
[00:10] WetWired: There's a lot of style update work I had to do
[00:12] WetWired: I'd recomend going 3.6.8 since you aren't chained to 3.5
[00:19] Goodlookinguy: Man WetWired, it IS really flexible, I've never had such power and openess. No wonder so many people go for vBulletin.
[00:26] WetWired: Test
[00:27] WetWired: Test2
[00:27] Goodlookinguy: Hey WW, how do you make the BB codes?
[00:27] WetWired: What do you mean?
[00:27] Goodlookinguy: I'm used to phpBB so I don't know how to mess with this.
[00:28] WetWired: You go to custom bb codes, then you change them?
[00:28] Goodlookinguy: What is "TAG"
[00:29] WetWired: Did you try the little help icon to the right?
[00:29] WetWired: Or the full explaination below?
[00:29] Goodlookinguy: Nope, I didn't even notice that, I'll try it right now.
[00:32] WetWired: I just changed it so that a post on the popup chatbox does a read in the same operation, which should smooth things out more
[00:33] Goodlookinguy: Hmm...{param}, I am having trouble with this for some reason.
[00:33] WetWired: Why's that?
[00:34] Goodlookinguy: {param} is not working.
[00:35] WetWired: Why do you say that?
[00:36] Goodlookinguy: I have input the same script I made that I used on phpBB board but changed the replasement areas with {param} and it doesn't work.
[00:37] WetWired: What are you trying to do?
[00:38] Goodlookinguy: Oh! I Got it work!
[00:38] Goodlookinguy: I had it "on" for the setting option
[00:39] KagomJack: Speed kills the beauty inside
[00:39] KagomJack: Oh, and Chruser's site fucking rocks
[00:40] WetWired: I just made some major changes to the popup chatbox netcode, so if you have any hicups, be sure to report them
[00:41] Goodlookinguy: What are hicups?
[00:41] KagomJack: No hiccups here
[00:41] Goodlookinguy: You mean when it slows down?
[00:41] WetWired: When it does something unusual
[00:42] WetWired: Specificly, what I changed was that when you post a message, it reads the changes in the same transaction
[00:42] Goodlookinguy: Every time the clock changes, my text stops.
[00:42] WetWired: This should make it run more smoothly
[00:42] WetWired: What do you mean?
[00:42] Goodlookinguy: It is really screwed up right now
[00:43] KagomJack: WW: I think we should do away with the NSFW forums
[00:43] KagomJack: It feels like no one reads it or anything
[00:43] WetWired: In what way?
[00:43] WetWired: I'm waiting for KA to call TOD
[00:43] KagomJack: TOD?
[00:43] Goodlookinguy: I am typing like right now and while I am typing it stops and I can keep typing and the text will appear about 2 seconds later. It did it three times while I was writing this.
[00:44] WetWired: Interesting
[00:44] WetWired: I don't think that's fixable
[00:44] Goodlookinguy: It just did it again, right before your post appears and just now when I was typing.
[00:44] WetWired: It sounds like what's happening is that your browser stops responding to input while it process the AJAX request
[00:45] Goodlookinguy: Maybe? I'm going to close it down and reopen it.
[00:46] Goodlookinguy: Let's see if it works...it worked. I am no longer having any problems.
[00:46] WetWired: If you had an old browser window open, you were doing a complete refresh every 10 seconds
[00:46] Goodlookinguy: Yeah.
[00:47] Goodlookinguy: How long does it take to refresh now?
[00:47] WetWired: This is because I had to change the variable used to sync that because it was the same one used to send the message X_X
[00:47] WetWired: How long it takes to refresh will vary
[00:47] Goodlookinguy: Oh really
[00:47] Goodlookinguy: It seems like it is posting after I type it and post it
[00:47] WetWired: The interval between refreshes is 10 seconds, or 5 in the popup chatbox if there was messages last refresh
[00:48] WetWired: Well yes, it immediately requests a read after you post
[00:48] WetWired: or in the case of the popup chatbox now, they are one operation
[00:48] Goodlookinguy: That's handy.
[00:49] WetWired: BTW, this fix should dramaticly reduce issues, because there are no longer two asynchronous processes running
[00:49] WetWired: Before, the posting and reading were separate
[00:49] WetWired: But many browsers restrict simultaneous operations to the same server
[00:50] WetWired: So if you were reading the posting would lag or fail out
[00:50] WetWired: or vice-versa
[00:50] WetWired: Now, there's only one process, so that doesn't happen
[00:50] WetWired: Also, you don't get the situation where your message has been posted but the response lags out
[00:51] Goodlookinguy: I am wandering I see the {option} tag and is there a way to have two options?
[00:51] WetWired: Well, you can, but it's for fewer reasons
[00:51] WetWired: Not really
[00:52] Goodlookinguy: [­Code­={­Option­},{­Option2­}]{­param­}[/­code­] ?
[00:52] WetWired: For more complicated things, you can also write a plugin to process a vBcode
[00:52] WetWired: You could have the plugin process the option value and parse it out
[00:53] Goodlookinguy: I see it, but the demo is having issues allowing me to mess with it.
[00:54] WetWired: I'm sure the demo doesn't allow plugins
[00:54] WetWired: That would mean letting you run arbitrary PHP code on their server
[00:54] Goodlookinguy: Yup, the plugins are not allowed.
[00:56] Goodlookinguy: Aww...I really like the the usercontrol you have. Now I know how you set those groups up to see the certain forums, that is a lot of work though.
[00:57] WetWired: Not really
[00:58] WetWired: There's a link to deny everyone to a forum, then you just reset whoever you want to have access
[00:58] Goodlookinguy: Well, I mean it is not a ton, but I would get bored messing with it. Oh! I never noticed that Deny button.
[00:59] WetWired: One warning: When you create a forum, there is a "private forum" option. In my experience, it causes more trouble than it solves. Always fix your private forums yourself
[01:00] WetWired: Also remember to set all the permissions for a new usergroup after you make it. Remember that you can start by duplicating another group's permissions, then work from there
[01:01] Goodlookinguy: Is the forum layout you have a custom one, along with the profile?
[01:01] WetWired: What do you mean?
[01:02] WetWired: Oh wow! I never saw the "Quick Forum Permission Setup" before
[01:03] Goodlookinguy: That sounds nice, I don't see it though.
[01:03] WetWired: Click "Forum permissions" it's at the top on the right
[01:03] WetWired: You can set the permissions for multiple usergroups at the same time (if you're setting them the same)
[01:04] Goodlookinguy: Oh, that's really, really nice!
[01:04] WetWired: Immensely useful when you have like 30 usergroups
[01:04] Goodlookinguy: No kidding.
[01:06] WetWired: Well, it's way,way past my bed time, so I must go
[01:06] Goodlookinguy: Alright, Goodnight.
[01:09] KagomJack: Glg
[01:09] KagomJack: I have a movie premise
[01:09] KagomJack: WANT TO HEAR IT?
[01:09] HandOfHeaven: Ugh, tired and can't sleep
[01:09] HandOfHeaven: Make a thread
[01:09] KagomJack: I'm sorry, HoH
[01:10] Goodlookinguy: Huh...Maybe...I am working on messing with a vBulletin right now.
[01:10] KagomJack: Oh
[01:10] KagomJack: screw you then :(
[01:10] Goodlookinguy: Don't be like that.
[01:10] *Goodlookinguy crys*
[01:10] HandOfHeaven: Ha
[01:11] KagomJack: You dont' really want to hear it to begin with
[01:11] KagomJack: even if it is stupid and senseless
[01:11] Goodlookinguy: Not true.
[01:11] KagomJack: SO TRUE
[01:11] *KagomJack goes to make pepperoni and cheese sammiches*
[01:12] Goodlookinguy: I just want to learn more about the vBulletin, I am thinking of getting it.
[01:13] KagomJack: That's cool
[01:13] Goodlookinguy: Yes, it is.
[01:13] Goodlookinguy: I'm switching servers in April
[01:15] *Goodlookinguy is logging off and says,"Sorry Kagom, I would love to hear your story, how 'bout tomorrow?"*
[01:16] KagomJack: Lata
[01:39] Goodlookinguy: ~!
[01:42] KagomJack: I thought you were logging off
[01:43] Goodlookinguy: I did, for a little while
[01:43] KagomJack: Oh cool
[01:43] KagomJack: So hi :>
[01:43] Goodlookinguy: Hi
[01:44] Goodlookinguy: Ever tried the vBulletin Bored
[01:44] Goodlookinguy: ?
[01:44] KagomJack: No
[01:44] KagomJack: I'm not really tech savvy
[01:44] Goodlookinguy: Too bad. It is fun stuff.
[01:44] KagomJack: Not to me :x
[01:45] Goodlookinguy: Well, I enjoy it anyways.
[01:46] KagomJack: That's godo
[01:46] KagomJack: *good*
[01:46] KagomJack: I enjoy foreign languages, film, and sex.
[01:46] Goodlookinguy: Same here, basically.
[01:47] Goodlookinguy: But I also translate the foreign language!
[01:47] KagomJack: I learn the foreign language so I can understand other people
[01:47] KagomJack: that and I love the way other languages sound
[01:48] Goodlookinguy: Have you ever watched Reno 911? If so do you like it?
[01:49] Goodlookinguy: It is going to start in 11-minutes for me, and I love that show.
[01:51] KagomJack: I LOVE RENO 911
[01:52] Goodlookinguy: We both do, that is Spectacular!
[01:52] KagomJack: Si
[01:53] Goodlookinguy: Yes!
[01:54] Goodlookinguy: Law & Order: Criminal Intent is on right now, and after is Reno 911, then SouthPark, what could be better than that?
[01:55] KagomJack: People NOT telling me I'd look good in panties.
[01:57] Goodlookinguy: We are the only people on Zelaron!
[01:58] KagomJack: Indeed
[01:59] Goodlookinguy: Indeed it is.
[02:00] Goodlookinguy: We should make a new thread, just so we can reply to each other and get lots of posts. Isn't that random...
[02:00] KagomJack: yes
[02:01] Goodlookinguy: Let's do it!
[02:03] KagomJack: You start the thread
[02:03] KagomJack: k
[02:03] Goodlookinguy: What should we call it first, though?
[02:04] Goodlookinguy: I've got it!!!!
[02:05] Goodlookinguy: A new thread about your thoughts right now!
[02:05] Goodlookinguy: *Creating Thread*
[02:07] KagomJack: I dunno
[02:07] Goodlookinguy: Done
[02:07] KagomJack: I'm just a Jew sitting on Capital Hill
[02:07] Goodlookinguy: Reply to it
[02:08] KagomJack: I did
[02:08] KagomJack: biznatch
[02:09] Goodlookinguy: Replied
[02:10] Goodlookinguy: I should ask Lenny to rename it to Current Thoughts
[02:15] KagomJack: I should find less weird people
[02:16] Goodlookinguy: No you shouldn't!
[02:20] KagomJack: but then they wont' think I would look good in panties
[02:21] Goodlookinguy: Kagom, wearing panties is normal...
[02:24] KagomJack: Not for guys :|
[02:24] Goodlookinguy: Yes, it is!
[02:25] KagomJack: Not for me >.<
[02:25] KagomJack: I'd look bad in one
[02:25] Goodlookinguy: Just wear one, and embrace it...
[02:25] KagomJack: I'm going to buy one and wear it and prove them wrong
[02:25] KagomJack: and then get rid of it
[02:26] Goodlookinguy: No, keep it fun.
[02:26] KagomJack: Dude
[02:27] KagomJack: wtf ?
[02:27] KagomJack: :<

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