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-Spector-
2008-06-27, 08:00 PM
This poll is private, so vote as you will.

If you wish to state your opinion on the matter, that would be excellent. ;)

WetWired
2008-06-27, 08:02 PM
I think it's too soon to make a judgement. In a situation like this, sparks are almost guaranteed; that doesn't mean it can't work out in the long run.

Slim
2008-06-27, 08:13 PM
I think it's too soon to make a judgement. In a situation like this, sparks are almost guaranteed; that doesn't mean it can't work out in the long run.

No, it was too soon to make him a mod. De-mod him, let him hang around as one of the regular Joe's. IF, and only if, he can prove himself to be a decent member should he even be CONSIDERED for a mod. Seriously, had he even made a post before Chruser got Mod-happy over him?

WetWired
2008-06-27, 08:18 PM
IIRC, I started an aquaintence out as a S. Mod and it turned out pretty well.

I, too, was quite surprised by Yawgmoth's moding and dislike the situation, too, but that doesn't mean it can't work.

Slim
2008-06-27, 08:20 PM
IIRC, I started an aquaintence out as a S. Mod and it turned out pretty well.

I, too, was quite surprised by Yawgmoth's moding and dislike the situation, too, but that doesn't mean it can't work.

No, that doesn't mean it can't work, but did you start off making everyone hate you?

WetWired
2008-06-27, 08:20 PM
Yes, he did. Generally, people automatically hate you when you leapfrog them to a staff position.

Slim
2008-06-27, 08:24 PM
IIRC, I started an aquaintence out as a S. Mod and it turned out pretty well.

I, too, was quite surprised by Yawgmoth's moding and dislike the situation, too, but that doesn't mean it can't work.

No, that doesn't mean it can't work, but you didn't start off making damn near the entire board hate you, did you? Sure, things might work out, but at this stage in the game things are much more likely to devolve into claims of power abuse and personally. The best recourse as I see it would be to de-mod, and let him earn the position as all the rest of Zel's current mods have. If it's felt he's up to snuff I have no problems with it. But right now he's too much of an X-factor.

Edit: Sorry for what is essentially a double-post. I can't for the life of me find the delete button..

WetWired
2008-06-27, 08:27 PM
Myself, I climbed to power legitimately. This is about a different member that I brought on as staff with virtually no time as a normal member. People claimed he was power hungry, etc. at first too, but eventually he became a respected member of the staff.

HandOfHeaven
2008-06-27, 08:28 PM
I don't think this is the case. His ideals don't really match with everyone's here, and I think he takes this forum way too seriously. This is a gaming forum, and therefore should be a more fun environment, with some restrictions of course.

Slim, you're right. He should prove himself to work for the good of this forum. In my eyes right now, he wants to mold and shape it to his way, which is contrary to what most of the member base wants. Why do you think -Spector- made this thread?

Slim
2008-06-27, 08:32 PM
Yes, he did. Generally, people automatically hate you when you leapfrog them to a staff position.

True enough, but I don't think most of us have our ire up because he's a nobody that got a staff position. It's because he's a rather large prick who happens to have a staff position for some reason unbeknownst to us.

WetWired
2008-06-27, 08:36 PM
Regardless, it's Chruser, not I, that you have to convince. Myself, I wouldn't have staffed a member so quickly again for the reasons illustrated now and in the past, but that was Chruser's decision.

Slim
2008-06-27, 08:37 PM
Regardless, it's Chruser, not I, that you have to convince. Myself, I wouldn't have staffed a member so quickly again for the reasons illustrated now and in the past, but that was Chruser's decision.

I know this, and I'm not trying to jump down your throat with all this by any means, I'm just throwing it all out there for consideration.

Chruser
2008-06-27, 08:58 PM
I have known Yawgmoth in real life for years, and I have no doubt that he means the best for Zelaron. His goals are indubitably to improve our community and to make it more popular, populated and thus more active. He is, however, very impatient with stagnation and resistance to experimentation and change, which I personally find to be a good quality, although it has a tendency to aggravate others.

Our goals are shared, but our strategies may vary. The ideas and provocations for beneficial changes which he grant us are definitely among the reasons why I am convinced that he should remain in the Zelaron administration.

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-27, 09:20 PM
And what of the reasons why he shouldn't?

Chruser
2008-06-27, 10:14 PM
And what of the reasons why he shouldn't?


1: Yawgmoth was given a Supreme Moderator position too soon!

Was he? He may not have been a Zelaron member for more than a year and a month, which is part of what makes him ideal for his job: He hasn't been biased by experiencing how things "should work" from our perspective.


2: "IF, and only if he can prove himself to be a decent member should he even be CONSIDERED for a mod"

How does the quality of being a dazzling display of decency relate to the ability of creating useful improvements for a community?


3: "The best recourse as I see it would be to de-mod, and let him earn the position as all the rest of Zel's current mods have."

Refer to #1. We need at least one staff member without as much experience as the rest.


4: "His ideals don't really match with everyone's here"

Differences in ideals leads to conflict and ideation. Occasional disagreement is a small price to pay for finding new, creative approaches to things. Also, conformity is a rarely seen quality in innovators and criminals alike. Why do you think members of both groups were commonly subject to the death penalty in the past?


5: "He takes this forum way too seriously"

How is that a problem? Refer to #4.


6: "He should prove himself to work for the good of this forum"

Point taken. It should, however, be noted that the desirous changes Yawgmoth likely will bring are not expected to be instantaneous. Zelaron has stagnated in a number of ways. It defies change, and change is Yawgmoth's forte. Conservatism is not intrinsically advantageous, thus arbitrary referrals to it are absurd.

Should his work prove continuously otiose, it would be reasonable to deprive him of his Supreme Moderator status.


7: "He's a rather large prick who happens to have a staff position for some reason unbeknownst to us"

Refer to my previous post and my responses to #1 and #4.


Hit me with whatever reasons to demod Yawgmoth that I missed. Furthermore, as I recently told -Spector- via AIM, if rational reasons are presented which outweigh the advantages of keeping Yawgmoth as a Supreme Moderator, he will be demodded without hesitation.

HandOfHeaven
2008-06-27, 10:17 PM
Well, it's rather hard to persuade someone with biases of his own to de-mod Yawgmoth.

Coriander
2008-06-27, 10:20 PM
Yawgmoths ideals are way to radical. He practically came in here and said "This is how I want things done, and want it done now, and you're going to listen or I will ban you for it."

-Spector-
2008-06-27, 10:25 PM
Yawgmoths ideals are way to radical. He practically came in here and said "This is how I want things done, and want it done now, and you're going to listen or I will ban you for it."

That's the feeling I was trying to convey.

Chruser
2008-06-27, 10:29 PM
Well, it's rather hard to persuade someone with biases of his own to de-mod Yawgmoth.


Should biases impair my capacity for rational thought to a significant extent, then yes, evidently. While Argumentum ad Populum is normally a fallacy, I may, however, not be thoroughly impervious to popular beseechment.

Coriander
2008-06-27, 10:42 PM
All Yawgmoth has done since recieve his S-Mod position is whine about how were doing everything wrong. No more talk about jews in posts, no more adding little bitty jokes about anything that doesn't contribute to the topic. If this forum gets over-run by little pricks like that, I'm out.

Draco2003
2008-06-27, 11:11 PM
I have to agree with Coriander on this one. It did seem like a hostile take over and that caught everyone off guard because we are so laid back, and the changes are usually a slow process, not so sudden.

As for your post on reasoning Chruser, I don't like it. It makes too much sense. For some reason, it makes for a sound decision and I totally agree, but it feels.... I don't know a big word for it, but it feels off. Other than that, I am neutral on the situation. I don't care who is mod, S-mod, SD-mod, or whatever, as long as he has a sense of humor and can accept that while he/she may have a strict code of ethics, there are others who are different, and must not abuse thier power.

So far, I have yet to see or hear of such abuse, which is why I stand neutral.

Randuin
2008-06-27, 11:18 PM
Man who gives a shit, no one really cares who gets mod anyway.

As long as we don't give any WOMEN mod because whiny vaginas always ruin forums.

Coriander
2008-06-27, 11:19 PM
Then why on earth did we give Yawgmoth a mod!?!?!!

Randuin
2008-06-27, 11:25 PM
Then why on earth did we give Yawgmoth a mod!?!?!!

What do you care? You're just as much of a no-name shrimp as he is.

Coriander
2008-06-27, 11:30 PM
It was simply me calling Yawgmoth a woman..You didn't get it. Perhaps a qoute was neccassery.

Why do I care?

Cause even though I don't have 2k, 3k, 10k, posts, this place has grown on me. And I would like it to not be ran into the ground by a person with power issues.

Wed-G
2008-06-28, 12:17 AM
Cause even though I don't have 2k, 3k, 10k, posts, this place has grown on me. And I would like it to not be ran into the ground by a person with power issues.

I kinda agree on this. I don't have very many post either, but I've come here for years. At, first, I only posted in places at certain times because I really don't have much to talk about. It's actually still that way.

Although I really don't like Yawgmoth (just because it seems that he doesn't seem to see things others create as important as they themselves see it) but I agree with Chruser about his ability to spark change.

Think about it, when was the last time we got so worked up over someone here? If necessary, take it to the flame forum and get out what you need to say. Bring his head out of the clouds.

Chruser
2008-06-28, 12:17 AM
I would like it to not be ran into the ground by a person with power issues.


I have notified Yawgmoth that the Zelaron Administration (or preferably all members) should be notified of his ideas for changes prior to enacting them, thus giving others a chance to stop unequivocally unfavorable changes if necessary. Of course, I don't expect this to always happen (as I like the idea of having initiative-taking members in the Zelaron Administration), but I think it would save all of us some trouble, particularly now that things are very mercurial.

Willkillforfood
2008-06-28, 01:32 AM
I have notified Yawgmoth that the Zelaron Administration (or preferably all members) should be notified of his ideas for changes prior to enacting them, thus giving others a chance to stop unequivocally unfavorable changes if necessary. Of course, I don't expect this to always happen (as I like the idea of having initiative-taking members in the Zelaron Administration), but I think it would save all of us some trouble, particularly now that things are very mercurial.

He's totally different from the hands off nature of most Zelaron mods, who just ban or delete posts in the most extreme of circumstances. He seems like an alright guy, don't get me wrong. I have no personal problems with him, and as far as Zonalon is convinced, I can see why he hates the guy. However, I really think he should have been given a chance to get to know the community more before given reigns.

Yawgmoth
2008-06-28, 02:57 AM
No on loves me. :(

He's totally different from the hands off nature of most Zelaron mods, who just ban or delete posts in the most extreme of circumstances.

I haven't actually banned or deleted any posts at all, actually all I have done as moderator is: unban Tynion two times, validate some new posts and put a very old and obsolete sticky-thread in the Trashcan.

I have threatened to ban all of you for flaming, but I didn't actually ban anyone. Then I became irritated with Zonalon and wanted to ban him for trolling, being stupid and irritating. As this was obviously based on my personal opinion I asked about it in the Chatbox and I eventually decided to just send him a PM.

I will probably re-read this topic later and answer to... some of your issues. Although, I think Chruser got most of them in his thread - but it might be good for the public opinion of me to do answer them personally.

Now I will create Jew World Order.

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-28, 04:46 AM
I have notified Yawgmoth that the Zelaron Administration (or preferably all members) should be notified of his ideas for changes prior to enacting them, thus giving others a chance to stop unequivocally unfavorable changes if necessary.

How is that going to work when he thinks that he is always right and doesn't care about what anyone else, even the majority, thinks?

Yawgmoth
2008-06-28, 04:55 AM
I actually do care, but not as much as is standard. Mostly, I care about the opinions of those I respect and those who I find interesting.

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-28, 04:56 AM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/cutemyspacecodes/02/STFU/stfu2.jpg

hey dejavu

Yawgmoth
2008-06-28, 05:27 AM
The same response in another thread, I still don't know how to actually respond to that... I guess it would be for the best if you'd just de-mod and ban me now. This is not what I sought for.

EDIT: I had hoped we would be beyond old internet-memes.

Randuin
2008-06-28, 09:55 AM
Nice green bars

Chruser
2008-06-28, 11:06 AM
I guess it would be for the best if you'd just de-mod and ban me now. This is not what I sought for.


Oh no you don't. I didn't stay up until 10 AM in your defense just so I could see you abandon the Browncoats on the verge of defeat. "Might have been the losing side; still not sure it was the wrong one."

khwiii
2008-06-28, 11:23 AM
No on loves me. :(

I haven't actually banned or deleted any posts at all, actually all I have done as moderator is: unban Tynion two times, validate some new posts and put a very old and obsolete sticky-thread in the Trashcan.

I have threatened to ban all of you for flaming, but I didn't actually ban anyone. Then I became irritated with Zonalon and wanted to ban him for trolling, being stupid and irritating. As this was obviously based on my personal opinion I asked about it in the Chatbox and I eventually decided to just send him a PM.

I will probably re-read this topic later and answer to... some of your issues. Although, I think Chruser got most of them in his thread - but it might be good for the public opinion of me to do answer them personally.

Now I will create Jew World Order.


Wow, for once, I actually didn't want to kick you in the nuts after reading one of your posts. Maybe there is some hope for you yet.

Chruser
2008-06-28, 12:01 PM
How is that going to work when he thinks that he is always right and doesn't care about what anyone else, even the majority, thinks?


You take him way too seriously. As I said, occasional disagreement is a small price to pay for finding new, creative approaches to things. Do you honestly think I would make him a moderator for the purpose of aggravating Zelaron members? I had realized conflict to be a likely consequence of the unconventional methods he employs, but as I previously said, we need someone from the outside who can give us new perspective.

Think about it for a while. What has really changed here in the past four years?

Willkillforfood
2008-06-28, 06:36 PM
I don't have anything against you besides the ban threats. Just like how you don't know us, we don't know you. Even if you were kidding we really just don't know, man. You seem like a nice and sensible guy to me. It's just most people's nature to question authority figures, especially ones who are catapulted from seemingly nowhere. It's not that people really hate you, they just don't know you, and they have very little besides your nazi post to judge you off of. It's just not a good way to make your first mark, ya know? Anyways, like I said, you seem like a nice guy.

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-28, 09:09 PM
You take him way too seriously. As I said, occasional disagreement is a small price to pay for finding new, creative approaches to things. Do you honestly think I would make him a moderator for the purpose of aggravating Zelaron members? I had realized conflict to be a likely consequence of the unconventional methods he employs, but as I previously said, we need someone from the outside who can give us new perspective.

He is taken seriously because it is not obvious that he is joking, and nobody knows him well enough to know he's joking. It doesn't seem like he's joking, and a lot of times I don't think he is.

It would be in his best interest, as a new member and a newly appointed Supreme Moderator, to be a bit friendlier and seem like less of a Nazi. He doesn't seem to agree with considering what other people think. He also seems to have some sort of superiority complex, which I can only attribute to the fact that he knows you. It almost seems like he feels he can boss me around because he knows that you'll support him (in his own world, anyway.)

Look at the poll. 10 to 2. I'm guessing the 2 are you and him, and the 10 is everyone else. Even if you think he could be helpful to Zelaron, he's not making himself liked very much. I explained to him in our conversation on MSN that as a new guy he needed to lay low because he doesn't understand how people will react to him. Unfortunately, he didn't heed my warning, and now nobody wants him here.

Either way, if he keeps up his shit, I'm going to keep up mine. I'm not going to tolerate some new guy trying to take over, even if he knows you. If it has to come down to it, you can demod/ban me if you have to, but I'm not going to submit to him, and I have no problem with openly displaying my dissatisfaction with him if he gives me a reason to do so. He's bringing this all upon himself by acting the way that he is.

Skurai
2008-06-29, 03:20 AM
Man who gives a shit, no one really cares who gets mod anyway.

As long as we don't give any WOMEN mod because whiny vaginas always ruin forums.

That's not entirely true. My Girlfriend doesn't even talk. (AND YES SHE IS A LIVE HUMAN, NOT A TOY :scatter:


On the issue.
I don't even think I've seen a post from this person, but whoever it is, sounds kinda... like a douche...:count:
De-mod I guess.

quikspy67
2008-06-29, 04:18 AM
Oh man this reminds me of the time Chruser made Rurouni Storm a supreme moderator.

Yawgmoth
2008-06-29, 05:04 AM
Look at the poll. 10 to 2. I'm guessing the 2 are you and him, and the 10 is everyone else.

(Actually, I consider voting for myself amoral - so I didn't. Sorry.)

I believe the superiority comes with being INTJ, though. Chruser is a man like all others, he is less human but still flesh and bone.

Thanatos
2008-06-29, 08:13 AM
13-3.

Yawgmoth
2008-06-29, 02:51 PM
Now it is 14 against 4. How long will we run this poll and how many voters would we need to make it "count"? I mean, Zelaron supposedly has 17 243 members, we seem to have around 100 guest everytime I log on, the amount of "active users" seems to be far less. So far we have 18 votes, and I'd guess there are about... 30ish more or less active users. I do not think many more will vote though.

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-29, 03:18 PM
Now it is 14 against 4. How long will we run this poll and how many voters would we need to make it "count"? I mean, Zelaron supposedly has 17 243 members, we seem to have around 100 guest everytime I log on, the amount of "active users" seems to be far less. So far we have 18 votes, and I'd guess there are about... 30ish more or less active users. I do not think many more will vote though.
What do you mean to make it count? It will never count. The popular vote doesn't matter, according to you. It could be 30 to 1 and at the end of the day nothing would happen.

Yawgmoth
2008-06-29, 03:34 PM
I think, more or less, the point of my post was - what is the meaning of this thread? I will not be de-modded unless someone can at least make semi-good arguments against the points Chruser made earlier in the thread. Since no one seems interested in putting an effort in banning me, I wondering what we will do with this voting.

Wallow
2008-06-29, 04:49 PM
Another thing is that Yawgmoth didn't post much on Zelaron to begin with. His posts were just on how he wanted to change Zelaron and nothing else. So shouldn't an s-mod's posts be more varied and interesting?

Yawgmoth
2008-06-30, 07:20 AM
Yes, the main purpose of a forum moderator is to post varied and interesting posts - the actual moderation is only a secondary chore at best. (Perhaps tertiary.)

Skurai
2008-06-30, 10:54 AM
Yes, the main purpose of a forum moderator is to post varied and interesting posts - the actual moderation is only a secondary chore at best. (Perhaps tertiary.)

Well hell, everyone does that.
I wanna be a Mod too! ^_^

Coriander
2008-06-30, 10:55 AM
Your not even being a decent moderator. You consider yourself King and the others on this forum scum. You simply view us as your personal pets.

Skurai
2008-06-30, 10:56 AM
Your not even being a decent moderator. You consider yourself King and the others on this forum scum. You simply view us as your personal pets.

My Cat does that... :o

-Spector-
2008-06-30, 01:42 PM
I think, more or less, the point of my post was - what is the meaning of this thread? I will not be de-modded unless someone can at least make semi-good arguments against the points Chruser made earlier in the thread. Since no one seems interested in putting an effort in banning me, I wondering what we will do with this voting.

The meaning of this thread was simply to get the general idea of the active users' opinions on this topic.

Sovereign
2008-06-30, 01:58 PM
I already tried to ban you.



You are not authorized to ban users who are not considered normal, registered users

Yawgmoth
2008-06-30, 02:06 PM
Come on! You know you love me! I am Happy Yawgmoth, the Happy Moderator! I will show you why Chruser thought me an interesting addition to the forum administration.

Coriander
2008-06-30, 02:08 PM
nothing to see here.

Thanatos
2008-06-30, 02:14 PM
Did you lose a copy of your favorite pokemon game or something? Seriously, WHO STILL LIKES POKEMON?

Coriander
2008-06-30, 02:37 PM
>.> <.< *Raises hand and walks away*

WetWired
2008-06-30, 02:44 PM
Seriously, WHO STILL LIKES POKEMON?
Who ever liked pokemon?

Coriander
2008-06-30, 02:51 PM
Excuse the hell out of me for liking something. I'll never do it again...

NonGayMan
2008-06-30, 07:56 PM
I used to like pokemon.... :weird:

Coriander
2008-06-30, 08:10 PM
And? I like the old pokemon. Season 1 and such, not the new ones. And I will continue to like them no matter what anyone says. So, fuck you all.

-Spector-
2008-06-30, 08:16 PM
Awesome. That's great.

Can we get back on topic now please?

Coriander
2008-06-30, 08:22 PM
Ah yes.....Let's get rid of yawgmoth already, only 6 people want him here...

!King_Amazon!
2008-06-30, 08:29 PM
Ah yes.....Let's get rid of yawgmoth already, only 6 people want him here...
I don't even believe the 6. I'd have to see who it is to believe it.

Skurai
2008-06-30, 11:16 PM
And? I like the old pokemon. Season 1 and such, not the new ones. And I will continue to like them no matter what anyone says. So, fuck you all.

I like Poke'mon... :(

Anyways, I think... we should all de-mod him and Mod me! Let's have an election, with a Japanese accent (replace the L with and R)!!!

Thanatos
2008-07-01, 06:28 AM
Ah yes.....Let's get rid of yawgmoth already, only 6 people want him here...

Um, I don't think banning him would be fair. He hasn't done anything really except come off as a pompous asshat at times.

You guys are taking this way too seriously.

Skurai
2008-07-01, 08:12 AM
Um, I don't think banning him would be fair. He hasn't done anything really except come off as a pompous asshat at times.

You guys are taking this way too seriously.

I don't think we ment BAN I think we just ment, we need to... de-mod him... ;) If he gets de-mod, then maybe his ego problems will deflate a little, and he'll become a bit nicer, yeah?:D

WetWired
2008-07-01, 09:25 AM
No, he was acting like his opinion was absolute truth before he was modded.

Vault Dweller
2008-07-01, 09:34 AM
Um, I don't think banning him would be fair. He hasn't done anything really except come off as a pompous asshat at times.

You guys are taking this way too seriously.


Agreed. In fact, I'll go as far as to say we give him the chance as moderator. It's been, what, two weeks? I'd say it took me considerably longer than that to evaluate my place in this forum and consequently modify my tone to something that seemed appropriate.

Now, if he goes and does something drastic, such as swinging the proverbial ban-stick with an air of assumed impunity, then I feel that we should consider some of the aforementioned responses.

Willkillforfood
2008-07-01, 06:17 PM
I sense friction between WW and him. Ooo.

Wallow
2008-07-01, 07:19 PM
De-mod him...No other option

Skurai
2008-07-01, 07:27 PM
De-mod him...No other option

Seems so...
:weird:
Too bad though, I don't think anybody is listening...

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-01, 08:09 PM
This thread is practically irelevant, because Yawgmoth won't get de-modded.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-01, 08:12 PM
This thread is practically irelevant, because Yawgmoth won't get de-modded.
This.

Wallow
2008-07-01, 08:12 PM
Maybe if we bribe Chruser in some way he'll de-mod Yawgmoth:grin:
That's probably what Yawgmoth did in the first place to get his position...
But in what way did he bribe him?

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-01, 08:18 PM
He didn't bribe him. Yawgmoth is one of Chruser's friends outside the walls of the internet, and Yawgmoth thought that he could be of some assistance to this forum. Of course, the whole 'you're doing everything wrong and my way is right because I'm an asshat' act was completely uncalled for. I think he did mean to be serious, he is just plagued by guilt because people aren't taking his posts as 'jokes' when it's an obvious coverup on his part. My guess is that Yawgmoth would not have this position if he did not know Chruser, because he's a power hungry prick who cannot agree with anyone but the likes of himself.

Skurai
2008-07-01, 08:40 PM
He didn't bribe him. Yawgmoth is one of Chruser's friends outside the walls of the internet, and Yawgmoth thought that he could be of some assistance to this forum. Of course, the whole 'you're doing everything wrong and my way is right because I'm an asshat' act was completely uncalled for. I think he did mean to be serious, he is just plagued by guilt because people aren't taking his posts as 'jokes' when it's an obvious coverup on his part. My guess is that Yawgmoth would not have this position if he did not know Chruser, because he's a power hungry prick who cannot agree with anyone but the likes of himself.

Hmmm... Yup. :)

Yawgmoth
2008-07-02, 04:14 AM
He didn't bribe him. Yawgmoth is one of Chruser's friends outside the walls of the internet, and Yawgmoth thought that he could be of some assistance to this forum. Of course, the whole 'you're doing everything wrong and my way is right because I'm an asshat' act was completely uncalled for. I think he did mean to be serious, he is just plagued by guilt because people aren't taking his posts as 'jokes' when it's an obvious coverup on his part. My guess is that Yawgmoth would not have this position if he did not know Chruser, because he's a power hungry prick who cannot agree with anyone but the likes of himself.

OHNOES I HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT! OMGWTFBBQ!!11+1

Also, what the hell is up with the word "asshat"? It is stupid.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-02, 08:24 AM
Asshat is one of the greatest words ever.

Wallow
2008-07-02, 10:18 AM
He didn't bribe him. Yawgmoth is one of Chruser's friends outside the walls of the internet, and Yawgmoth thought that he could be of some assistance to this forum.

I knew that already
You didn't catch my sarcasm =/
I should've used the tags

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-02, 11:17 AM
Coming from you, I assumed that you were in the dark about the situation. Basically, I wouldn't put it past you to think that Yawgmoth bribed Chruser.

Skurai
2008-07-02, 11:19 AM
Coming from you, I assumed that you were in the dark about the situation. Basically, I wouldn't put it past you to think that Yawgmoth bribed Chruser.

So... he shouldn't be a mod, this is were It keeps ending up everytime... :weird:

Thanatos
2008-07-02, 01:13 PM
Your opinion doesn't matter.

Slim
2008-07-02, 01:51 PM
OHNOES I HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT! OMGWTFBBQ!!11+1

Also, what the hell is up with the word "asshat"? It is stupid.

It means you have your head up your ass, quite relevant when referring to you.

Willkillforfood
2008-07-02, 03:04 PM
Ass=storage compartment?

-Spector-
2008-07-02, 04:35 PM
Ass=storage compartment?


For shit and occasionally heads.

quikspy67
2008-07-02, 06:55 PM
I knew that already
You didn't catch my sarcasm =/
I should've used the tags

How the hell is he supposed to detect sarcasm from text?

Skurai
2008-07-02, 07:54 PM
Your opinion doesn't matter.

Uhhh....?
It's pretty much the same opinion as most other peoples... You're a douche.... :weird:

Slim
2008-07-02, 08:30 PM
No, seriously. Your opinion doesn't matter.

Skurai
2008-07-02, 08:38 PM
No, seriously. Your opinion doesn't matter.

I've kinda got that down now...

Willkillforfood
2008-07-03, 02:07 AM
Good.

-Spector-
2008-07-03, 08:44 PM
Sex .

Skurai
2008-07-04, 02:17 AM
Sex .

Good Sex....? :weird:

quikspy67
2008-07-04, 03:35 AM
Why so off topic?

Wallow
2008-07-04, 11:01 AM
Why so off topic?

Because everyone agrees that Yawgmoth should be de-moded and he is a royal "asshat," but nobody can do anything about it because Chruser is being a stubborn prick.
That sums it up

Skurai
2008-07-04, 01:49 PM
Because everyone agrees that Yawgmoth should be de-moded and he is a royal "asshat," but nobody can do anything about it because Chruser is being a stubborn prick.
That sums it up

Bingo. :grin:

Wed-G
2008-07-06, 09:56 PM
Because everyone agrees that Yawgmoth should be de-moded and he is a royal "asshat," but nobody can do anything about it because Chruser is being a stubborn prick.
That sums it up

I honestly don't feel that calling Chruser a prick is a good idea. Considering he hasn't demodded Yawgmoth, I'd honestly assume it's not going to happen and that doesn't make him a prick. It's his site, his staff, his rules.

quikspy67
2008-07-07, 01:30 AM
Yeah I agree who ever pays the bills should make the decisions, that webhosting and vbulletin bill isn't cheap.

Wallow
2008-07-07, 07:52 AM
I honestly don't feel that calling Chruser a prick is a good idea. Considering he hasn't demodded Yawgmoth, I'd honestly assume it's not going to happen and that doesn't make him a prick. It's his site, his staff, his rules.

Yea, but it's still annoying that nothing will happen despite the poll and this whole thread

Skurai
2008-07-07, 01:33 PM
Yea, but it's still annoying that nothing will happen despite the poll and this whole thread
It's true, His site His rules, like they said... still, a Poll and Thread speaks too.
The peoples are the walls and castle, y'know. ;)

quikspy67
2008-07-07, 10:55 PM
But the thread is a good idea because well you can't discourage freedom of speech.

Skurai
2008-07-08, 12:03 AM
But the thread is a good idea because well you can't discourage freedom of speech.

Without using a Blunt Object in the Process.

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-21, 10:24 PM
*bump*

He hasn't signed in for 19 days...shouldn't our Supreme Moderators at least pop in a few times a month?

quikspy67
2008-07-21, 11:42 PM
True enough, note: Yawgmoth has 0% activity.

Wallow
2008-07-22, 10:45 AM
True enough, note: Yawgmoth has 0% activity.

If we scared him off, let's celebrate!

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-22, 03:17 PM
Ding dong the witch is dead?

I didn't want him to leave, I just wanted him to stop being an asshat.

Wed-G
2008-07-22, 03:20 PM
Ding dong the witch is dead?

I didn't want him to leave, I just wanted him to stop being an asshat.

Yes, "asshattery is a nuisance" to quote Chruser, I do believe.

Willkillforfood
2008-07-22, 09:19 PM
It's too bad he left. He wasn't a bad guy.

Titusfied
2008-07-23, 08:08 AM
Good bump. Considering he left and has 0% activity, I think that's a pretty telling tale. However, I think you people were giving him too hard of a time. He had a different method of doing things, and just because it wasn't what everyone was used to, doesn't mean it was bad. This Forum has evolved so much over the years, and it might be in need of another evolution.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-23, 08:15 AM
Good bump. Considering he left and has 0% activity, I think that's a pretty telling tale. However, I think you people were giving him too hard of a time. He had a different method of doing things, and just because it wasn't what everyone was used to, doesn't mean it was bad. This Forum has evolved so much over the years, and it might be in need of another evolution.
Fuck you.

Titusfied
2008-07-23, 08:18 AM
Good point.

Thanatos
2008-07-23, 08:41 AM
Fuck you.

Stop spamming. This isn't the place for it.

So, Chruser, what's Yawgmoth been up to?

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-23, 08:54 AM
Stop spamming. This isn't the place for it.

So, Chruser, what's Yawgmoth been up to?
This is where you should go one page back, see yourself doing almost the same thing, and then go fuck yourself.

Willkillforfood
2008-07-23, 08:56 AM
What crawled up your vagina and died? You sure are fiesty today.

Titusfied
2008-07-23, 10:46 AM
Well, wouldn't you be feisty too if your life revolved around an internet forum? Can't really blame the bean pole, now can we?

Thanatos
2008-07-23, 10:50 AM
I guess you can't blame him. This is really all he has to look forward to. He's the coolest, toughest Supreme Moderator on a forum that nobody cares about.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-23, 12:05 PM
oh lawd, im under attack

fire ze missiles!!1

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1295/842001129_f185c1bfce.jpg

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-23, 12:14 PM
Maybe this thread would have more emphasis if the title had an exclamation point, not a question mark.

Thanatos
2008-07-23, 12:48 PM
You aren't doing anything to help your cause. You're a bigger asshat than Yawgmoth.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-23, 02:09 PM
I think you're the one that started this, asshole. Get the fuck over yourself. I don't give the slightest shit what you think of me. This is the INTERNET gai.

Thanatos
2008-07-23, 02:24 PM
If you don't give a shit about what I think why are you getting so worked up over nothing?

Asshat.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-23, 08:38 PM
If you don't give a shit about what I think why are you getting so worked up over nothing?

Asshat.
Where have I gotten "worked up" at all?

Wallow
2008-07-24, 07:28 AM
Well, when you start cursing out at people, it kind of drops the hint that you are "worked up"

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-24, 11:51 AM
Well I was joking with Titus, and I was attemping a somewhat witty one-liner in response to Thanatos' serious face. Shortly thereafter I posted a lolcat. That doesn't seem too "worked up" to me.

And who asked you anyway, scrub?

Thanatos
2008-07-24, 12:39 PM
Well I was joking with Titus, and I was attemping a somewhat witty one-liner in response to Thanatos' serious face. Shortly thereafter I posted a lolcat. That doesn't seem too "worked up" to me.

And who asked you anyway, scrub?

Asshat.

!King_Amazon!
2008-07-24, 01:09 PM
oh no u didnt

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-24, 01:14 PM
Cripple fight!

quikspy67
2008-07-24, 01:14 PM
All the supreme moderators are on but Yawgmoth.

Titusfied
2008-07-30, 12:02 PM
Yawgmoth = God?

Wallow
2008-07-30, 02:48 PM
Yawgmoth = Booked it

NonGayMan
2008-07-30, 10:30 PM
Maybe he's on vacation. :weird:

-Spector-
2008-07-30, 10:42 PM
Hmm... Time to ask Chruser!

quikspy67
2008-07-31, 12:17 AM
Maybe he's on vacation. :weird:

How was your vacation?

HandOfHeaven
2008-07-31, 12:46 AM
It's been four weeks since Yawgmoth has signed on.

quikspy67
2008-07-31, 09:30 AM
His computer became defunct.

Titusfied
2008-08-06, 07:48 AM
I love Yawgmoth.

Wallow
2008-08-06, 07:05 PM
I love Yawgmoth.

Do not say that...

jamer123
2008-08-06, 08:52 PM
titusfied stop being gay and act like a man

Wed-G
2008-08-06, 10:55 PM
titusfied stop being gay and act like a man

Whoa. Calm down little bitches.

Willkillforfood
2008-08-07, 12:24 AM
titusfied stop being gay and act like a man

LOL. That's hilarious. Yea titusfied!

jamer123
2008-08-07, 01:44 PM
thats the first funny thing i said or anyone said in a while

HandOfHeaven
2008-08-07, 01:49 PM
I pooped on your mother's chest last night.

Wallow
2008-08-07, 07:41 PM
thats the first funny thing i said or anyone said in a while

What HOH means is that WKFF was being sarcastic. Your naivety humors me Jamer

Since everyone is just spamming now...

~Closed~

Wed-G
2008-08-07, 09:13 PM
What HOH means is that WKFF was being sarcastic. Your naivety humors me Jamer

Since everyone is just spamming now...

~Closed~

Whipping boy?

I wish.

quikspy67
2008-08-07, 09:21 PM
What HOH means is that WKFF was being sarcastic. Your naivety humors me Jamer

Since everyone is just spamming now...

~Closed~

Your a retard.

Wallow
2008-08-08, 08:18 AM
Your a retard.

Why insult someone if you can't even use proper grammar, You're!

Now ~CLOSED~

HandOfHeaven
2008-08-08, 08:53 AM
http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=646311#post646311

Wallow, you don't have the seniority to even begin to do the '~closed~' thing. Quit trying to look cool.

Wallow
2008-08-08, 09:14 AM
http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=646311#post646311

Wallow, you don't have the seniority to even begin to do the '~closed~' thing. Quit trying to look cool.

It's not a thing about seniority. If people are spamming a serious thread that was lost a while ago, there's no reason to keep it going. Hence the CLOSED post. And why would I try to impress any of you by being "cool?" Don't flatter yourself, it's just a forum.

Lenny
2008-08-08, 11:36 AM
I swear, kid, give me one more reason to ban you and you're out of here. I'm getting to the point where I can't stand your petty arguing any more. You seem to have problems with jamer, HoH, and quickspy, and I'd put money on there being others which I've missed.

You don't have the seniority to claim a thread closed, your e-peen is pathetically small, and you're not GLG. Consider this your last warning from me.

And no, I'm not going to close the thread - when I've got the time I'm going to split the posts which aren't helpful to the thread, starting with yours.

Thanatos
2008-08-08, 12:47 PM
baahahahahahaha

but for real. fuck all of you.

Wallow
2008-08-08, 05:02 PM
I swear, kid, give me one more reason to ban you and you're out of here. I'm getting to the point where I can't stand your petty arguing any more. You seem to have problems with jamer, HoH, and quickspy, and I'd put money on there being others which I've missed.

You don't have the seniority to claim a thread closed, your e-peen is pathetically small, and you're not GLG. Consider this your last warning from me.

And no, I'm not going to close the thread - when I've got the time I'm going to split the posts which aren't helpful to the thread, starting with yours.


Dude calm down. Why are you frieking out, if you don't want to see my "petty arguing" then ignore my posts. But it's not really fair that you bitch out on me when there's no reason to. With Quikspy it was just a flaming thread to take out anger and to use up posts for the day. With HOH, we were merely arguing what happened in a movie thread that you continued. With Jamer, I complained once that he spammed inecessarily and you're snapping at my tail. And no, there weren't others. I'll stop arguing with people so much, but there's no need to get hasty and ban me for a stupid reason

!King_Amazon!
2008-08-08, 06:44 PM
Dude calm down. Why are you frieking out, if you don't want to see my "petty arguing" then ignore my posts. But it's not really fair that you bitch out on me when there's no reason to. With Quikspy it was just a flaming thread to take out anger and to use up posts for the day. With HOH, we were merely arguing what happened in a movie thread that you continued. With Jamer, I complained once that he spammed inecessarily and you're snapping at my tail. And no, there weren't others. I'll stop arguing with people so much, but there's no need to get hasty and ban me for a stupid reason
SHUT THE FUCK UP.

BITCH.

No really.

Draco2003
2008-08-08, 11:45 PM
OFF TOPIC: Wallow, why do you insist on correcting people's spelling and grammar when you fail quite a few times either in your post trying to correct it, or in a follow-up post? And another thing, you don't have any right telling any moderator how to do thier job.

ON TOPIC: Does anyone really feel that de-modding Yawgmoth will solve anything? Obviously he hasn't been on in a while for whatever reason was given, but if he wasn't a moderator, would you guys view him differently? Just trying to get to the bottom of this, and get the thread back on topic.

Wallow
2008-08-09, 03:50 PM
OFF TOPIC: Wallow, why do you insist on correcting people's spelling and grammar when you fail quite a few times either in your post trying to correct it, or in a follow-up post? And another thing, you don't have any right telling any moderator how to do thier job.


I require proof of what you speak

Where did you get that I was telling them how to do their job?

It doesn't matter if we wanted to de-mod Yawgmoth or not, he hasn't showed up in months.

Wed-G
2008-08-10, 06:10 PM
Spam.

Thanatos
2008-08-11, 08:56 AM
So, Chruser, where has Yawgmoth been?